Bint Islam
Nov 26 2003, 12:11 AM
salam
Is day-dreaming about sex haram?
salam
reza mohd
Nov 27 2003, 01:08 AM
salam alaykom,
Imam alSadiq says: "Thinking about haram is haram".
But I remember reading in a risaleh (I believe it was sayyid Khemenaiy's, but please don't take my word for it) saying that thinking about something that is haram does not account for a sin.
reza
Hana
Nov 27 2003, 02:45 AM
i agree with you reza
Mohamad_Hussein
Dec 1 2003, 06:04 AM
Bint Islam, when you think about something like sexuality for example you start developping the intention to do it. That is why it is forbidden.
Mohamad_Hussein
Dec 1 2003, 06:04 AM
Bint Islam, when you think about something like sexuality for example you start developping the intention to do it. That is why it is forbidden.
Mohamad_Hussein
Dec 1 2003, 06:04 AM
Forget these things. They will mislead you.
Mohamad_Hussein
Dec 1 2003, 06:05 AM
Bint Islam, when you think about something like sexuality for example you start developping the intention to do it. That is why it is forbidden.
Mohamad_Hussein
Dec 1 2003, 06:08 AM
Sorry for posting like the same message 1 billion times. I accidently clicked the mouse a billion times cuz the PC wasn't working.
BuMahdi
Jan 10 2004, 11:26 PM
hmmm, the line between haram and halal on the subject is blurred and quite thin. Again if it's obsessiveness with the subject than yes i guess it would be impermissable....but before you eat me for not stating a marji3, i want to say that this is MY opinion.....(ill quote marji3s soon..promise:) )
Zeiad88
Jan 18 2004, 04:45 PM
aa
4Life
Jan 20 2004, 09:05 AM
Salamaleykom wr wb
We had a similar discussion before,but then the question was if one was asleep,and that is quite different.When you are asleep you are not aware,but daydreaming is when you are awake and concient.
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| Bint Islam, when you think about something like sexuality for example you start developping the intention to do it. That is why it is forbidden. |
Brother,sexuality is not forbidden,neither is thinking about it.Sexuality is a natural fenomenon,nesseccary for reproduction.
But there is a limit and a balance to when it is becoming out of control.When it comes out of control,that is when it becomes dangerous and you are in risk of doing Haram.It also depends on your lifesituation,as in weither you are married or single,young or old.. these things also affect you in different ways.
Would someone ask a marjah about the limit on when and how it becomes haram? would be good to get a more knowledgable explanation to it.. think everyone could benefit from this information
Fee aman Allah
sayed_ali
Feb 22 2004, 02:00 PM
the hadith states that you should not get close to zina (or sex).
thinking about sex is getting close to sex. therefor it would be haram!
why would you want to put these saitanic ideas in your mind anyway, you should be in rememberance of Allah, not in the remmeberance of that which Allah detests!
you should get rid of these satanic thoughts!!!
Thinking of haram may lead to haram, therefor it would be haram in threat of getting closer to haram, and doing the haram!
Andre
Feb 27 2004, 02:48 PM
What does these mean?
1) al-imam
2) haram
3) reza mohd
Andre
Feb 27 2004, 02:48 PM
which flag is jeehad4life burning?
Sayed Hussain
Feb 27 2004, 03:26 PM
| QUOTE (Andrs @ Feb 27 2004, 02:48 PM) |
What does these mean? 1) al-imam 2) haram 3) reza mohd |
i believe al-imam is the admin of this message board
haram = something forbiden in islam, and if u do ull get a sin for it
reza mohd = a member on this board
peace!
Andre
Feb 27 2004, 03:33 PM
I didnt mean for you to say the admin or this guy name. What al-imam means? For example it can mean happy chat.
and what is that forbidden, what has to do with sex, is it sex wothout love or something like that?
Thank you
reza mohd
Feb 27 2004, 04:34 PM
Imam in Arabic means leader or one who the masses follow. But I don't think bro admin is either

. Or are you? :sly:
Andres, "actions" and "things" in Islam are split into 4 branches (or is it 6?):
Halal
Haram
Musteheb
Makrooh
The first means it is permissable.
The second means it is forbidden
The third means that if you do it you will get rewarded, but if you don't you won't be punished.
The fourth means that if you don't do it you will be rewarded, but if you do it you won't be punished.
does that help

reza
Laayla
Feb 27 2004, 08:39 PM
| QUOTE (reza mohd @ Feb 27 2004, 04:34 PM) |
Imam in Arabic means leader or one who the masses follow. But I don't think bro admin is either . Or are you? :sly:
Andres, "actions" and "things" in Islam are split into 4 branches (or is it 6?):
Halal Haram Musteheb Makrooh
The first means it is permissable. The second means it is forbidden The third means that if you do it you will get rewarded, but if you don't you won't be punished. The fourth means that if you don't do it you will be rewarded, but if you do it you won't be punished.
does that help 
reza |
Salam.
It is 5. The fifth being Muba7 meaning if you want to do it you can and if you don't want to do it you don't have to. Or you won't get rewarded and you won't get punished if you do it.
Ma Salamah.
Andre
Feb 27 2004, 08:57 PM
so the x
reza mohd
Feb 28 2004, 12:51 AM
That was the reason for the topic brother. Whether it is forbidden or not is a matter for scholars to decide. The whole job of an "Ayatollah" is to look through texts, scriptures, narrations and a whole list of criteria and determine whether an action or thing is forbidden or not (or something else).
From what I know, Imam Jafer Alsadiq (the Prophet's 4th great grandson) said: "Thinking about what is forbidden is forbidden".
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| Sex is the only thing forbidden? How do arabs have children then? |
Sex isn't forbidden bro

Intercourse within the bounds of a legal marriage between a man and a woman is halal and even recommended. Adultery and fornication are forbidden.
| QUOTE |
| Have occidental names (originally jews names) like Andrs have a translation in Arab? |
hmm...probably. Like Abraham is Ibraheem and Ishmael is Ismaeel and David is Dawood and Joseph is Yusif. Don't know about Andrew though.
reza
Andre
Feb 28 2004, 03:24 AM
So to use a condon is a sin like in the catholic religion, right?
reza mohd
Feb 28 2004, 12:26 PM
I've seen programs on TV talking about that and I was surprised by some of the things I heard. I wouldn't honestly know though whether it is a sin or not, but to the best of my knowledge it isn't.
Any of the married members want to answer that. I guess the discussion falls under the category "There is no embarrasment in religion"
reza
Andre
Feb 28 2004, 04:00 PM
ok, Ill wait for the reply of anyone who wnats to answer that. In the catholic religion it is forbidden to masturbate. Is that forbidden to in Islam?
I would like that condoms were permitted because aids is killing lots of people. Using it may not let a child born but assures you (almost) that you dont die.
Ive read a very ironic article in the newspaper. The Vatican has the biggest porn library in the world. Thats because they have every book they prohibit.
reza mohd
Feb 28 2004, 05:09 PM
Andre
Feb 28 2004, 05:39 PM
thanks, that question was very well answered!
Ive never listened such a good answer
Hajar
Mar 1 2004, 04:48 PM
Salaam alaikum,
Most Scholars say that temporary forms of birth control are allowed, providing they don't damage the health of the person. In general permanent forms of birth control, like sterilization are forbidden. Permanently removing the ability to procreate, has been likened to removing an arm or leg. However, if there is a good reason for this, for example a woman can't have anymore children because it will kill her, then it is allowed for her to permanently remove the ability to have children.
WaSalaam, Hajar
Andre
Mar 1 2004, 05:02 PM
thanks.
I thought scholars were some people that studied in schools.
When it is said "Scholars say.." it is meant some kind of priest that interpretate Allahs words?
Ali ibn Youssef
Feb 9 2006, 07:37 PM
786
there are seven levels of purification.
the sixth is thought.
upon reaching this level one will not think bad thoughts.
most of us are still working in #one
7 levels of purification,
1- body ( clean body)
2- food and drink (halal food with halal money)
3- clothing (halal clothes with halal money)
4- talk (no bad words or lies or insults)
5- actions (no bad actions)
6- thought (no unclean thoughts)
7- intentions (All intention should be to Allah)
Ali ibn Youssef
Feb 9 2006, 07:40 PM
QUOTE(Bint Islam @ Nov 25 2003, 07:11 PM)

salam
Is day-dreaming about sex haram?
salam
anytime you think about it, say authubillahe mine shaitane rageem
because shaitan is with you
Ali ibn Youssef
Feb 9 2006, 07:42 PM
QUOTE(Andre @ Mar 1 2004, 12:02 PM)

thanks.
I thought scholars were some people that studied in schools.
When it is said "Scholars say.." it is meant some kind of priest that interpretate Allah?s words?
786
be carefull who you let interprate Allahs words for you
pink
Sep 21 2008, 05:29 AM
QUOTE(Andre @ Feb 27 2004, 10:24 PM)

So to use a condom is a sin like in the catholic religion, right?
assalamu `alaykum wa rahmatulah
I found the word "condom" itself in "A Code of Practice for Muslims in the West," though in the original Arabic "Fiqh lil Mughtaribin," a descriptive phrase was used rather than a single word for the concept. Here are some rulings that I have gleaned regarding birth control.
يجوزللمرأة استعمال العقاقير الطبية المانعة من الحمل، شرط أن لا تتضررمنها ضرراً بليغاً ، بلا فرق في ذلك بين رضا الزوج به وعدم رضاه.م
(الفقه للمغتربين، الزواج، م#411)
It is permissible for a woman to use contraceptives (the pill) to prevent pregnancy, provided that it does not damage her health in a serious manner, irrespective of whether or not the husband has agreed to it. (A Code of Practice for Muslims in the West, Marriage, General Rules, #407)
يجوز للرجل استعمال الغطاء الواقي (الكبوت) للحدً من الانجاب، والأحوط وجوباً استحصال موافقة زوجته على استعماله ذاك الغطاء الواقي.م
(الفقه للمغتربين، شؤون الشباب، م #460)
It is permissible for a man to use the condom to prevent pregnancy; however, it is precautionarily obligatory that he should seek the consent of his wife to using it. (A Code of Practice for Muslims in the West, Youths' Issues, General Rules, #499)
Inshallah it helps.
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