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Wa Salam to you brother. Good to see you back on board.
The miracle that Nabee Mohamed left for us until this day to the day of Judgement is the Quran. It is the same Quran in the Arabic text for all 73 sects. The difference comes to place only when the verses are interperted. In other words, the commentary is different. The Shia use the interpretation according to the Ahul-Beit. Wahabis interpret the Quran according to Ibn Taymiah & Abdul-Wahib. Sunnis according to their caliphs, Abu Horaraa and 3sheya.
The best example I can give you is when the Quran says "Yadal Allah."
The hand of Allah is over their hands." [48:10]
Wahabis take this literarly, saying that God has a hand, Astgfor'Allah. While the j3faris take it figurativly.
Ma Salamah.
The miracle that Nabee Mohamed left for us until this day to the day of Judgement is the Quran. It is the same Quran in the Arabic text for all 73 sects. The difference comes to place only when the verses are interperted. In other words, the commentary is different. The Shia use the interpretation according to the Ahul-Beit. Wahabis interpret the Quran according to Ibn Taymiah & Abdul-Wahib. Sunnis according to their caliphs, Abu Horaraa and 3sheya.
The best example I can give you is when the Quran says "Yadal Allah."
The hand of Allah is over their hands." [48:10]
Wahabis take this literarly, saying that God has a hand, Astgfor'Allah. While the j3faris take it figurativly.
Ma Salamah.
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Yes I read that if it says that Allah has a hand then Allah has a hand, the thing is we dont have to imagine a big enourmous human hand. Allah is far beyond our imagination.
"wa lam iakul lahu kufuan ahad"
Yes I read that if it says that Allah has a hand then Allah has a hand, the thing is we dont have to imagine a big enourmous human hand. Allah is far beyond our imagination.
"wa lam iakul lahu kufuan ahad"
dear brother you misunderstood me.
God doesn't have a hand. He doesn't have a body. We can not imagine Him. There are decisive verses and ambigious verses. The hand verse is ambigious. You have to go back to the decisive verses to understand if it violates the principles. If it does, you know it is not literal, and Allah suban wa ta3ala says it in a figerative way so we can understand it better according to our frame of reference.
Allah sub7an wa ta3la does not have a frame of reference. We are limiting God when he says he has a hand.
InshAllah I explained it better this time.
Also, your second post I deleted it because it was way off topic. Please post it in an appropriate section of the forum. I orginaly pmed you but something is wrong with your name, and it was unable to go through.
Ma Salamah.
God doesn't have a hand. He doesn't have a body. We can not imagine Him. There are decisive verses and ambigious verses. The hand verse is ambigious. You have to go back to the decisive verses to understand if it violates the principles. If it does, you know it is not literal, and Allah suban wa ta3ala says it in a figerative way so we can understand it better according to our frame of reference.
Allah sub7an wa ta3la does not have a frame of reference. We are limiting God when he says he has a hand.
InshAllah I explained it better this time.
Also, your second post I deleted it because it was way off topic. Please post it in an appropriate section of the forum. I orginaly pmed you but something is wrong with your name, and it was unable to go through.
Ma Salamah.
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The book they have is not "another Qur'an", rather it is a silly attempt to mimic the style of writing in the Qur'an and thus "refute" the Ayah that says "If you have any doubt in what we have revealed on our Apostle, then come with one Surah like it. If you cannot, and when you fail, then fear the Fire...".
They claim that they have come with "one surah like it". Of course, when you read it, you realize that they are just stupid Kuffar.
They don't seem to understand that the Qur'an is not poetry (Shi'r), nor prose (Nathr), nor any known style of writing in Arabic history. It is "Qur'an", and is a style that is beyond human capability (hence the title: a Miracle).
This new book the Christians invented has grammatical mistakes, weak sentence structure, weak stories, no legislation (the Qur'an full of legislation and guidance, even the stories are outlines for us to understand the human psyche), and the book is clearly affected by human emotional weaknesses. The Qur'an has none of these problems.
Just ignore the petty children. If you want to understand what exactly is wrong with this new book, go learn Arabic, study the style of Arabic in the Qur'an and you will see for yourself.
Wal Salamu Alaykum.
They claim that they have come with "one surah like it". Of course, when you read it, you realize that they are just stupid Kuffar.
They don't seem to understand that the Qur'an is not poetry (Shi'r), nor prose (Nathr), nor any known style of writing in Arabic history. It is "Qur'an", and is a style that is beyond human capability (hence the title: a Miracle).
This new book the Christians invented has grammatical mistakes, weak sentence structure, weak stories, no legislation (the Qur'an full of legislation and guidance, even the stories are outlines for us to understand the human psyche), and the book is clearly affected by human emotional weaknesses. The Qur'an has none of these problems.
Just ignore the petty children. If you want to understand what exactly is wrong with this new book, go learn Arabic, study the style of Arabic in the Qur'an and you will see for yourself.
Wal Salamu Alaykum.
The new AMERICAN Quran: a dangerous trick A new Quran
is being distributed in Kuwait, titled "The True
Furqan". It is being described as the ayats of the
Shaytan and Al-Furqan weekly magazine has found out
that the two American printing companies;'Omega 2001'
and 'Wine Press' are involved in the publishing of
'The True Furqan', a book which has also been titled
'The 21st Century Quran'! It is over 366 pages and is
inboth the Arabic and English languages...it is being
distributed to our children in Kuwait in the private
English schools! The book contains 77 Surats, which
include Al-Fatiha, Al-Jana and Al-Injil. Instead of
Bismillah, each Surat begins with a longer vesion of
this incorporating the Christian belief of the three
spirits.
And this so! called Quran opposes many Islamic
beliefs. in one of its ayats it describes having more
than one wife as fornication, divorce being
non-permissable and it uses a new system for the
sharing out of the will, opposing the current one. It
states that Jihad is HARAAM.
This book even goes as far as attacking Allah,
Subhanahu wa Tahala!
All this is poisoning our children at approx. $3.
is being distributed in Kuwait, titled "The True
Furqan". It is being described as the ayats of the
Shaytan and Al-Furqan weekly magazine has found out
that the two American printing companies;'Omega 2001'
and 'Wine Press' are involved in the publishing of
'The True Furqan', a book which has also been titled
'The 21st Century Quran'! It is over 366 pages and is
inboth the Arabic and English languages...it is being
distributed to our children in Kuwait in the private
English schools! The book contains 77 Surats, which
include Al-Fatiha, Al-Jana and Al-Injil. Instead of
Bismillah, each Surat begins with a longer vesion of
this incorporating the Christian belief of the three
spirits.
And this so! called Quran opposes many Islamic
beliefs. in one of its ayats it describes having more
than one wife as fornication, divorce being
non-permissable and it uses a new system for the
sharing out of the will, opposing the current one. It
states that Jihad is HARAAM.
This book even goes as far as attacking Allah,
Subhanahu wa Tahala!
All this is poisoning our children at approx. $3.
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